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[Hit the Deck]

I live in Europe and when I play in the morning (evening on the other side of the globe) against two-digits-ping players, the matches are usually harder. Although I always pug, these pug players are noticeably different than ours. They know what to do and move in a single blob as if they are in the same unit. The ELO rating must be the same but the player quality is markedly different.

Was I several times accidentally dropped in higher ELO brackets (for example, theb33f was there) or do you guys experience the same thing? I'm curious if the reverse is true for north American players.

[MeiSooHaityu]

[Joseph Mallan]

Aw shucks! Thanks.

[MeiSooHaityu]

Ok, in reality I don't know if NA players are really better (I'd like to think so, but I know it probably isn't the reality), we are about equal I'd say. It might be a ping thing or latency issue with the server being located here. Even if the ping looks good, there might be other connection stability issues at play. Who knows really.

As for the theb33f, I think he is a good player, but not a "good" player. I think he likes to screw around and do weird and goofy builds. He has fun with it and that might keep his ELO lower.

[zagibu]

i noticed this, too. I think that they are simply the biggest group of players, so the matchmaking has it easier to find people of around your ELO rating, and doesn't have to use scrub fillers so often.

[Siegegun]

I play at all different times and time zones, and fully half of my small unit is from the euro time zone, the rest in NA. I do notice a small difference personally, however I would not say they are better than euro time zone people. I think NA primetime might just be more competitively focused (more focused on winning than fun). When I play in the euro primetime I see less "meta" (meta builds, meta chassis, meta weapons, etc etc), and more "fun" builds. So to me it seems the combination of that factor, plus ping differences, plus population differences together might give that illusion.

I can assure you there are many good euro players, I have died to them many times.

Note I am talking about solo pugging, not the group que or CW. Also note this is just my impression and opinion. No slight intended to the euro players, just my impression of the solo que in euro primetime.

edit- Also when I say fun builds I mean builds that are not considered very "competitive/meta".

Edited by Siegegun, 18 February 2015 - 03:41 AM.

[NextGame]

it would be nice to have a ping that doesn't fluctuate between 140 and 260 for no apparent reason, and would be even nicer to actually have a competitive ping on my European 150mb connection.

[WarPickle]

Ha we're not better...... it just means we are brain dead and can only follow each other around like lemmings

I mean umm...... yeah we haz mad skillz!

[Soultraxx]

I found not much difference either way. Theres good and bad players in every locale I suppose.

Im assuming sub 80ms pings are NA players.
In the UK I sit at about 95ms

Edited by Soultraxx, 18 February 2015 - 04:02 AM.

[norus]

Our collective e-peen has been inflated by a good 2 inches by this, thanks dood! I do imagine latency has a bit to do with it though, the light lag-shield is real when my internet decides to have issues and my ping flies up to 300.

[Satan n stuff]

The only difference I've noticed is that you tend to get better matches during US primetime, probably due to the larger number of active players. Makes sense that if there's more players online there's less dead weight to carry and fewer sharks in the kiddie pool.

[LordSkippy]

As much as I'd like to chant "USA! USA! USA!" and "America, #@$& yeah!":

Larger player population = better matchmaking

[Beld]

hehe reminds me of something i read once.

American students #1 in confidence 35th in math

[Shinobu Oshino]

Hit the Deck, on 18 February 2015 - 02:47 AM, said:

I live in Europe and when I play in the morning (evening on the other side of the globe) against two-digits-ping players, the matches are usually harder. Although I always pug, these pug players are noticeably different than ours. They know what to do and move in a single blob as if they are in the same unit. The ELO rating must be the same but the player quality is markedly different.

Was I several times accidentally dropped in higher ELO brackets (for example, theb33f was there) or do you guys experience the same thing? I'm curious if the reverse is true for north American players.

#whocares

[NextGame]

Soultraxx, on 18 February 2015 - 04:01 AM, said:

I found not much difference either way. Theres good and bad players in every locale I suppose.

Im assuming sub 80ms pings are NA players.
In the UK I sit at about 95ms

Out of interest, which ISP?

[Dawnstealer]

I do notice that after I go to bed, we lose half the planets we spent so much time defending or taking...

[Jon Gotham]

Not better just different. During NA primetime I notice things like strike usage WAY up. The matches and player behaviour is more ruthless.
In EU prime time I notice that individual players seem to be better, but group cohesion tends to be worse.

[AdamBaines]

Hit the Deck, on 18 February 2015 - 02:47 AM, said:

I live in Europe and when I play in the morning (evening on the other side of the globe) against two-digits-ping players, the matches are usually harder. Although I always pug, these pug players are noticeably different than ours. They know what to do and move in a single blob as if they are in the same unit. The ELO rating must be the same but the player quality is markedly different. Was I several times accidentally dropped in higher ELO brackets (for example, theb33f was there) or do you guys experience the same thing? I'm curious if the reverse is true for north American players.

This is interesting to me because I am an East Coast North American, and when I play prime-time NA times Im an above average player, but when I get the chance to play in the morning or afternoon when its prime-time for other areas in the world, I tend to get whacked more often. Could it be play styles that is the difference?

[Macksheen]

I am slaughtered equally in all time-zones.

[Myke Pantera]

I also think Americans group up easier because 1) They don't think that they live in the only sane country\state on their continent like we euros do 2) they all sprechen the selbe language